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This week's panel will be David Burn (AdPulp), Dan Goldgeier (AdPulp), Bill Green (Make The Logo Bigger) and Dirk Singer (Cow).

TOPICS


Socializing This Holiday Season: There seems to be a big push toward social engagement, just as the social networks are starting to rethink their money-making strategies. Is this a risk for brands like Starbucks and Coke to be initiating such strong social pushes in a down market or just smart moves? Shouldn't they be pushing mass market efforts to maintain dominance? What are the risks and the rewards? In particular, are the moves by Starbucks and Coke solid social efforts or are the critics right in calling them misguided promotional efforts? What about Facebook's move to start charging brands for running contests across its network -- is this just good timing to ride the wave or is this a solid business move on their part? Does even Facebook understand the value of social networks for marketing? Why is there a continued emphasis by the big social players to capitalize on ad units? Are they responding to agency ignorance or are they not forward thinking enough themselves? It is interesting that Adweek ran a story that showed agency's themselves are still lagging behind on their use of social media. Is this surprising?

Is Tech-Know-How The Key to Job Security: The latest round of layoffs were big ones. BBDO Detroit announced the closure of its office there. AOL is laying off 2,500. And some say the end of the recession still won't help agency hiring for a while. In the midst of this noise there was interesting statement made at the new Creativity & Technology exhibit in London's Saatchi Gallery. Yates Buckely proclaimed, "If you are a creative and you don't know about technology, you will be out of job soon." Thoughts about this? Is tech-know-how the key to job security? Don't the BBDO and AOL situations disprove this? Or can't we read too much into whole office closures? Is this statement more rhetoric about the future being digital or is there a kernel of ominous truth to it? What will be the key indicator of digital's dominance? Is it the fact that mobile internet use now surpasses voice? Is it online video? Is it where we get our news and information? Is it social network growth? All proclaim they are showing the way in digital -- what do we look for?

Oprah Changes Jobs: Oprah made waves at the end of the week by announcing the end of her show is set for September 2011. Is this really as big a deal as people make it? Oprah's show has been a major mover of what one source called "late adopters." She's the one who gets your grandmother to buy a Kindle. Will brands and PR folks be hurting without the vehicle her show represents? Will her audience simply follower her to cable? Will she still engage as much in this new venue and will advertisers still follow her? What does she need to do to succeed in this new venture?

Murdoch v. Google: The fallout from Rupert Murdoch's announcement he will start blocking Google from his online properties continued. And now comes the analysis. Is it reasonable to think that even Murdoch would block Google? Is this just a ploy? What is he really after here? Is this just a matter of justifying his plans to erect pay walls everywhere?

Use the Loofa: Droga5 offered a great example this week of what it takes to go viral. Their campaign involves motivating action, shows connection with their target, inspires social engagement and is just plain funny? {Bob will explain the spots in short} Now, not everyone likes it though. So let me ask why this program works and why it doesn't? What are it's strong and weak points? What can we learn from the effort.

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Tags: adpulp, beancast, bill+green, cow, dan+goldgeier, david+burn, dirk+singer, make+the+logo+bigger, marketing+podcast

Samuel Monnie Comment by Samuel Monnie on November 22, 2009 at 1:48pm
Murdoch vs Google & Socializing the holiday scene i think both these topics interrelate:

As for Mr Murdoch I completely agree with the need to reclaim some of the value that the news media generate, without paid,'independent' experts the world will be a lesser place. Journalism is a real profession and blogging is not ...(yet anyway). The problem is that the media owners responded far far far ! too late - eg in Radian 6 analysis tools 'mainstream news' are just one single category out of 8 ....so we as new/social media protaginists are being coached to only give them 12.5% of attention, yet the quality they deliver is likely to be significantly more credible than on a random blog. We need the real stuff, and they should get paid for it. EG how about a licence fee/royalty...that is applied to every pc/laptop ...or even internet connectible device...radical yes, necessary yes.

My fear of not having the credible news sources is via an example. I was listening in to the debate on Malclom Gladwells blog this week and there are 'high stakes' - via claim and counter claim questioning the credibility of supporting references behind Steve Pinker's review of Malcolms recent book 'what the dog saw'. In most cases BOTH sides are relying on blogs and websites.... This is scary, who do i believe ? who is the most robust ? Which ones have been hacked and fabricated ?

Mr Murdoch clearly is a pretty clever operator and doesnt need my sympathy or help, however I get nervous that paid for journalism is dying and people are being conditioned to expect everything for 'free'. I still buy CD's and pay for MP3 downloads, and even buy the occassional newspaper... but perhaps the next 2 generations will not .....and by then it will be too late.


Socializing this holiday season - I think its cool that brands are trying to connect in a more human way...it just takes time to get it right and in most cases you need to think about the consumer/audience - before you construct any message. You have to put them first and understand what's in it for 'them'. Thats the area we as Marketeers need the most help - because its actually quite difficult, and quality control suffers. When you are under time and $$ pressure sometimes the consumer is an afterthought...which unfortunately is always a flawed strategy....Im glad i work with colleagues and agencies that 'get it' and help steer the ideas and execution in the right direction. The winners will be those that continuous learn and re-invent what they do.

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